Scratching Below the Surface with David Heinemeier Hansson

Reflections on a podcast interview with DHH on curiosity, learning, systems thinking, and flow.

I’m part-way through listening to a podcast interview with David “DHH” Heinemeier Hansson, creator of Ruby on Rails, author of Rework and Remote and co-founder of Basecamp. I wanted to write down some brief notes on what came up so far before I forget. I may return to this thread after I’ve finished listening to the rest. These are just some of the points that stood out for me from the conversation; I’d strongly recommend you give it a listen yourself, especially if you’re interested in coding, systems thinking, improving and learning new skills and so on.

• Curiosity — this is a skill worth cultivating. There are various metaphors often used for curiosity, but in the podcast DHH talks about the need to ‘dig / scratch below the surface’. He talks about how finding the thing in the topic / skill / domain that interests him is often a case of just keeping burrowing down until you find it.
• Learn What You Need — DHH talks about learning to code as a way of solving a particular problem, and about learning only just enough rather than diving into that learning as a pure pursuit needing you to learn everything.
• Systems Improvement — this isn’t explored that deeply in the part I listened, but it was a good reminder that there is a way of thinking about improvement that sees improving the system as the way to improve the skill.
• Time / Flow — DHH talks about driving racing cars and how time really flies when he does this. This is an observation that this, for him, is a skill he is enjoying learning, and one that gives him a great sense of that satisfaction that comes from doing a rewarding activity at just the right level of difficulty.

More on this to follow (maybe).